I've had a shryke (champion glow) before and always thought they were really under stable but were really fast and could go far. The halo shryke is a more over stable and has more grip than its champion brother, but at the cost of distance. By this I mean that, this disc still has good turn, especially when throwing hard, but fades much faster than a champion version. From my use, it seems more like it should now be 13,5,-2,3. So, if you want and overstable shryke, this does that but not quite how you'd expect.